AI alignment and ethics

[firestar464]

AI-fuelled delusions are hurting Canadians. Here are some of their stories

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ai-psych ... -1.7631925

[wjfox]

Hunger strikers want end to 'superhuman' AI

Sky News speaks to people on hunger strike to protest against the race to develop 'superhuman' artificial general intelligence.

Saturday 20 September 2025 02:42, UK

https://news.sky.com/video/hunger-strik ... i-13434270

^ Video

[weatheriscool]

Hunger strikers want end to 'superhuman' AI

Sky News speaks to people on hunger strike to protest against the race to develop 'superhuman' artificial general intelligence.

Saturday 20 September 2025 02:42, UK

https://news.sky.com/video/hunger-strik ... i-13434270

^ Video

There is a lot of forces wanting humanity to have a religious dark age or head backwards. We on future timeline shouldn't be supporting any of this shit and should be pushing hard for advancement. We all know where societies goes if the otherside wins.

They may not all be right wing religious fascist but the powers that get into government almost certainly will be at least when dealing with western countries. Also something to consider is the reality that china and the east is going to do it and will probably be our rulers if we're dumb enough to go down this path.

[firestar464]

it's not that hard bruh

[wjfox]

There is a lot of forces wanting humanity to have a religious dark age or head backwards. We on future timeline shouldn't be supporting any of this shit and should be pushing hard for advancement. We all know where societies goes if the otherside wins.

They may not all be right wing religious fascist but the powers that get into government almost certainly will be at least when dealing with western countries. Also something to consider is the reality that china and the east is going to do it and will probably be our rulers if we're dumb enough to go down this path.

You have a rather binary view of this issue. There are shades of grey. You don't think we need greater oversight of a potentially existential risk? I am hardly anti-tech, but I want AI to progress in a way that doesn't kill us all. How about we put more effort into safety, and international collaboration, instead of this "race" to beat China at all costs? Current budgets for AI alignment are woefully inadequate.

[weatheriscool]

If you're serious then demand a ban on a.i's in the military and law enforcement. You don't want it to become skynet! If you're serious you can't be training it to kill or think about killing humans as in developing a view that considers us as useless/enemies of it in the same manner we consider other people. If you see it as a threat then don't give it a gun. Of course, other people will do so(China and most countries of this idiotic species), but I think we're overstating the risk of it turning against us if we're smart. Fingers crossed on that!

Instead we should teach it to care about humanity(be our healthcare provider, clean our homes and do our basics), produce our food, and to advance medical science that enhances humanity. We must encourage this as that is safe and beneficial to all.

A.i is probably going to happen and we better hope we teach it to value us as humans. That in my mind is what is important. It is all about how you go about developing the a.i and what it values.

[firestar464]

did I just read some confusing paragraph on how alignment is important and unimportant at the same time?

[firestar464]

I'm just wondering if the antiAI movement will become a tankie pipeline. While this game of racing to the singularity is indeed a dangerous on, there is no choice but to play it. If responsible actors do not develop ASI, irresponsible ones will, one of them being the PRC. Sure, I'm not saying US companies are necessarily amazing, but the US still has shreds of democracy left, while the same can't be said for the PRC. To believe that AI should be banned in the US is to deny this reality. To deny this reality, you'd have to believe that the PRC is a responsible actor, and if you believe that the PRC is somehow a responsible actor, then eventually you might go down the insane tankie route.

[weatheriscool]

[firestar464]

ChatGPT Is Blowing Up Marriages as Spouses Use AI to Attack Their Partners

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-marriages-divorces

Even Geoffrey Hinton, a Nobel Prize-winning computer scientist known as a “Godfather of AI” — a technology that likely wouldn’t exist in its current form without his contributions — recently conceded that his girlfriend had broken up with him using ChatGPT.

“She got ChatGPT to tell me what a rat I was… she got the chatbot to explain how awful my behavior was and gave it to me,” Hinton told The Financial Times. “I didn’t think I had been a rat, so it didn’t make me feel too bad.”

holy shit? hinton's relationship was ruined by AI?

[firestar464]

About a second person:

She’d started using ChatGPT earlier this year to help her with writing. But her use quickly became problematic.

“I woke up one morning,” he recounted, “and I could tell that something was off.”

His wife soon stopped sleeping, instead staying up late into the night to engage in long, intensive conversations with ChatGPT about spiritual topics — she believed she’d contacted a mystical entity inside the AI — and even launching a Discord channel where she and others in similar AI spirals discussed their reality-bending revelations.

The man said that his wife stopped taking her medication, causing her mental state to rapidly deteriorate. She became verbally hostile toward him and her elderly mother, whom they lived with. As communication between the spouses fell apart, the woman began to follow her husband around their home, reading aloud ChatGPT-generated outputs about him and their marriage as she trailed him through the house.

ok, how were emergency services not called at that point? that's rapidly escalating psychosis and must be dealt with urgently. you see, I feel like a lot of these cases would've turned out better had the people around the afflicted possessed better understanding of how to deal with situations like these. not absolving the responsibility of OAI or anything; just commenting on how important awareness is

[firestar464]

WIRED- AI Psychosis Is Rarely Psychosis at All

https://archive.ph/ist3y

TLDR it's more "ai delusions" than "ai psychosis"

[firestar464]

The world's first frontier AI regulation is surprisingly thoughtful: the EU's Code of Practice

https://blog.ai-futures.org/p/what-the- ... tice-means

[firestar464]

Meta’s flirty AI chatbot invited a retiree to New York.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... bot-death/

[caltrek]

Governor Newsom Signs SB 53, Advancing California’s World-Leading Artificial Intelligence Industry
Press Release
September 29, 2025

Introduction:

(Governor Gavin Newsome) What you need to know: Governor Newsom today signed legislation further establishing California as a world leader in safe, secure, and trustworthy artificial intelligence, creating a new law that helps the state both boost innovation and protect public safety.

SACRAMENTO — Governor Newsom today signed into law Senate Bill 53, the Transparency in Frontier Artificial Intelligence Act (TFAIA), authored by Senator Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) – legislation carefully designed to enhance online safety by installing commonsense guardrails on the development of frontier artificial intelligence models, helping build public trust while also continuing to spur innovation in these new technologies. The new law builds on recommendations from California’s first-in-the-nation report, called for by Governor Newsom and published earlier this year — and helps advance California’s position as a national leader in responsible and ethical AI, the world’s fourth-largest economy, the birthplace of new technology, and the top pipeline for tech talent.

“California has proven that we can establish regulations to protect our communities while also ensuring that the growing AI industry continues to thrive. This legislation strikes that balance. AI is the new frontier in innovation, and California is not only here for it – but stands strong as a national leader by enacting the first-in-the-nation frontier AI safety legislation that builds public trust as this emerging technology rapidly evolves.”

- Governor Gavin Newsom

Read more here: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/09/29/gove ... dustry/

[firestar464]

Russia, China and North Korea are using ChatGPT to influence you — here’s how

https://san.com/cc/russia-china-and-nor ... heres-how/

[firestar464]

WIRED- OpenAI Says Hundreds of Thousands of ChatGPT Users May Show Signs of Manic or Psychotic Crisis Every Week

https://archive.ph/ERYoD

[wjfox]

More than 1,000 Amazon employees sign open letter warning the company’s AI ‘will do staggering damage to democracy, our jobs, and the earth’

December 2, 2025, 4:02 AM ET

Amazon employees are sounding the alarm on AI in an open letter addressed to CEO Andy Jassy and the company’s senior leadership team.

The letter was published last week with signatures from over 1,000 unnamed Amazon employees, from Whole Foods cashiers to IT support technicians. It’s a fraction of Amazon’s workforce, which amounts to about 1.53 million, according to the company’s third-quarter earnings release.

In it, employees claim the company is “casting aside its climate goals to build AI,” forcing them to use the tech while working toward cutting its workforce in favor of AI investments, and helping to build “a more militarized surveillance state with fewer protections for ordinary people.”

“We, the undersigned Amazon employees, have serious concerns about this aggressive rollout during the global rise of authoritarianism and our most important years to reverse the climate crisis,” the letter’s authors wrote. “We believe that the all-costs-justified, warp-speed approach to AI development will do staggering damage to democracy, to our jobs, and to the earth.”

https://fortune.com/2025/12/02/amazon-e ... obs-earth/

[firestar464]

Meet the Group Breaking People Out of AI Delusions

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelli ... -delusions

[wjfox]

https://futurism.com

God I hate that website.

In the early days of Future Timeline, we used to get a tsunami of traffic from Reddit's r/futurology.

And then ... along came futurism.com! Sometime around 2013-2014. And it began to totally dominate that sub (along with Interesting Engineering), leaving us in the dust. Our traffic has never recovered since.