Israel's conflict with its neighbours

[firestar464]

Another great example of war propaganda.

Take a moment to actually examine both of the photos and think. Please please please think critically. The first photo shows an image of a truck stopped in front of a roadblock on sat view. There is no more information than this, this truck could literally be anywhere in the entire world. The 2nd image shows a traffic jam next to the sea somewhere. Is there any analysis actually geolocating this photo and verifying its connection the 1st photo? Not that we can see! Moroever, even if the 2nd photo is true and geolocated, is it actually connected to the first photo accurately in the way presented by the poster? A traffic jam should be expected in an evacuation of millions of people.

It's been geolocated.

But no, forget critical thinking. Let's just look at two Jersey Barriers and call the people being genocided mean names. Let's take any unrelated unproven thing we can possibly find and use it to justify the war.

Where in the tweet is Ed hating on Palestinians?

[raklian]

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[wjfox]

Gaza Strip on 'edge of catastrophe' as Israeli siege continues

– As the Israeli siege of Gaza continues, the area is "on the edge of catastrophe", a BBC reporter on the ground says

– In Khan Younis in the south, hundreds of thousands of people have arrived, after Israel warned them to leave the north

– People are sleeping in the streets, running water is limited, and there are queues for bread outside bakeries

– Israel has blocked supplies of food, water, fuel, and electricity since the deadly Hamas attacks on 7 October

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-m ... t-67119233

[wjfox]

[Time_Traveller]

Gaza Strip on 'edge of catastrophe' as Israeli siege continues

– As the Israeli siege of Gaza continues, the area is "on the edge of catastrophe", a BBC reporter on the ground says

– In Khan Younis in the south, hundreds of thousands of people have arrived, after Israel warned them to leave the north

– People are sleeping in the streets, running water is limited, and there are queues for bread outside bakeries

– Israel has blocked supplies of food, water, fuel, and electricity since the deadly Hamas attacks on 7 October

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-m ... t-67119233

I think the Palestinian people will not last under the current Israeli occupation.

[Cyber_Rebel]

Blast kills hundreds at Gaza hospital; Hamas and Israel trade blame as Biden heads to Mideast

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KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — A massive blast rocked a Gaza City hospital packed with wounded and other Palestinians seeking shelter Tuesday, killing hundreds of people, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said. Hamas blamed an Israeli airstrike, while the Israeli military said the hospital was hit by a rocket misfired by Palestinian militants. The Gaza Health Ministry said at least 500 people were killed.

As rage spread through the region because of the hospital carnage, and with President Joe Biden heading to the Mideast in hopes of stopping the war from spreading, Jordan’s foreign minister said his country canceled a regional summit scheduled for Wednesday in Amman, where Biden was to meet with Jordan’s King Abdullah II, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi.

The war between Israel and Hamas was “pushing the region to the brink,” Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi told state-run television. He said Jordan would host the summit only when everyone had agreed its purpose would be to “stop the war, respect the humanity of the Palestinians and deliver the aid they deserve.”

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If this was deliberate, then it's a war crime right on par with Russia and Hamas's initial aggression. Considering what Vaush said in his stream above, and their airstrikes are indeed that accurate, then Israel has just made a colossal f#ck up.

I do not support Hamas still and I continue to separate religious extremist from those who aren't, but this was just incredibly misguided, and there is no other eloquent way of framing it.

The Israeli military blamed Islamic Jihad, a smaller, more radical Palestinian militant group that often cooperates with Hamas in their shared struggle against Israel. The military said Islamic Jihad militants had fired a barrage of rockets near the hospital at the time and that “intelligence from multiple sources” indicated it was “responsible for the failed rocket launch that hit the hospital.”

Would like clarification of who these "sources" actually are and their trustworthiness.

Edit: Self moderating my own post to remove any inflammatory remarks. We still don't have the exact details right now, and I too should abide by the rules regarding how language and information is presented within this thread.

[raklian]

If this was deliberate, then it's a war crime right on par with Russia and Hamas's initial aggression. Considering what Vaush said in his stream above, and their airstrikes are indeed that accurate, then Israel has just made a colossal f#ck up. A f#ck up severe, that we (the West) honestly should not be supporting Israel in any capacity.

I do not support Hamas still and I continue to separate religious extremist from those who aren't, but this was just incredibly retarded, and there is no other eloquent way of framing it.

The Israeli military blamed Islamic Jihad, a smaller, more radical Palestinian militant group that often cooperates with Hamas in their shared struggle against Israel. The military said Islamic Jihad militants had fired a barrage of rockets near the hospital at the time and that “intelligence from multiple sources” indicated it was “responsible for the failed rocket launch that hit the hospital.”

Would like clarification of who these "sources" actually are and their trustworthiness.

People are now saying, after analyzing the video feeds from different angles, it looks it might've actually been a Hamas rocket or a piece of it (perhaps intercepted or somehow broke apart) veering off from its trajectory towards Israel. President Biden just ordered for an investigation into what happened. We won't know for sure until tomorrow or the next few days at the latest.

[Cyber_Rebel]

Even that guy doubts it was a misfire though. I'm not saying that it's impossible, and certainly we should have all evidence available before making any assertions. But, to hit a hospital full of Palestinians as an accident? Just on its face, the damage is already done even if such turned out to be true. Israel has also already targeted universities and other civilian targets which they claimed are holdouts or tied to Hamas.

I'm not certain what Biden will accomplish, perhaps easing the Israel response a bit, so hopefully the visit won't escalate things past what they already are. Twitter and Social Media "news" is also making this war very difficult to discern accurate information, as everyone feels like they have a stake or agenda within their opinions.

Still don't believe there are "good guys" which people are seeking to cling to, but certain actions taken are becoming incredibly disproportionate and egregious.

[Powers]

I'm not certain what Biden will accomplish, perhaps easing the Israel response a bit, so hopefully the visit won't escalate things past what they already are.

Same as in Ukraine? Everyone knows that US supports Israel and Iran, Palestine.

[raklian]

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[raklian]

Looks like the diplomatic relationship between Israel and Russia is turning for the worse.

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[Time_Traveller]

Israel strikes Gaza, Syria and West Bank as Hamas war threatens to spread

2023-10-22

Israeli warplanes struck targets across Gaza overnight on Saturday and into Sunday, as well as two airports in Syria and a mosque in the occupied West Bank allegedly used by militants, as the two-week-old war with Hamas threatened to spiral into a broader conflict.

Israel has traded fire with Lebanon’s Hezbollah militant group on a near-daily basis since the war began, and tensions are soaring in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where Israeli forces have battled militants in refugee camps and carried out two air strikes in recent days.

For days, Israel has seemed to be on the verge of launching a ground offensive in Gaza as part of its response to Hamas’s deadly October 7 rampage. Tanks and tens of thousands of troops have massed at the border, and Israeli leaders have spoken of an undefined next stage in operations.

But the military acknowledges there are still hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians in northern Gaza despite a sweeping evacuation order, which would complicate any ground attack. And the risk of triggering a broader war with Hamas’s allies in Lebanon and Syria might also give them pause.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... jvEmD05x8s