Ukraine War Watch Thread

User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »

Leak Shows Zelensky, in Private, Contemplated Bold Attacks Inside Russia
by John Hudson and Isabelle Khurshudyan
May 13, 2023

Introduction:
(The Washington Post) Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has won the trust of Western governments by refusing to use the weapons they provide for attacks inside Russia and prioritizing the targeting of Russian forces inside Ukraine’s borders.

But behind closed doors, Ukraine’s leader has proposed going in a more audacious direction — occupying Russian villages to gain leverage over Moscow, bombing a pipeline that transfers Russian oil to Hungary, a NATO member, and privately pining for long-range missiles to hit targets inside Russia’s borders, according to classified U.S. intelligence documents detailing his internal communications with top aides and military leaders.

The documents, which have not been previously disclosed, are part of a broader leak of U.S. secrets circulated on the Discord messaging platform and obtained by The Washington Post. They reveal a leader with aggressive instincts that sharply contrast with his public-facing image as the calm and stoic statesman weathering Russia’s brutal onslaught. The insights were gleaned through intercepted digital communications, providing a rare look at Zelensky’s deliberations amid Russian missile barrages, infrastructure attacks and war crimes.

The Pentagon, where senior U.S. military leaders were briefed on the matters outlined in the leaked documents, did not dispute the authenticity of the materials.

In some cases, Zelensky is seen restraining the ambitions of his subordinates; in several others, he is the one proposing risky military actions.

Read more here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2 ... ocuments/
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »

Xyls wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:27 am Appears there is some sort of counterattack by Ukraine going on in Bakhmut right now and Russians are losing positions.
ibm9000 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:38 pm ...
Visegrad24
Maybe, you should check the integrity of your Visegrad24, maybe the size of their arrows...
In the past, their "news" tended to happen never or in the future.
Corroborating reports:
(The Drive) After months of fighting in and around the besieged city of Bakhmut, Ukrainian forces have retaken ground on the city’s flanks as a Russian unit made a hasty retreat.

In its latest assessment, the Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyOfWar) noted signs indicate local Ukrainian counterattacks to the northwest and southwest of the city, retaking about 17 square kilometers. In the north, Ukrainian forces advanced along the Berkhivka reservoir. At the same time, Ukrainians pushed south out of Ivanivske.
See this link for article and related Twitter feeds: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u ... ts-flanks
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Corroborating reports:
Good thing someone waited for them... and no one said that Ukraine has won the war, again.
Well, there was a mention of collapse...
User avatar
wjfox
Site Admin
Posts: 13588
Joined: Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Essex, UK
Contact:

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by wjfox »

Ukraine war: Kyiv hit by 'exceptionally dense' missile and drone attack

42 minutes ago

The Ukrainian capital Kyiv has been targeted by further Russian air attacks, described by one official as "exceptional in density".

Ukraine said all 18 missiles were shot down and footage showed air defences destroying targets over the city.

At least three people were injured during the barrage, which used both drones and missiles, officials said.

Russia has stepped up its air campaign in recent weeks, ahead of an expected Ukrainian offensive in the south.

The air raid alert sounded at around 02:30 local time (23:30 GMT Monday) and was lifted two hours later in the eighth attack to hit the capital this month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65606385


Image
Image source, State Emergency Service of Ukraine
User avatar
wjfox
Site Admin
Posts: 13588
Joined: Sat May 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Essex, UK
Contact:

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by wjfox »

User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Readers should be cautios about taking at face value allegations that have the potential to spread disinformation.
UK MOD.
Ukraine Says It Shot Down Kinzhal Missiles
The NY Times.
weatheriscool
Posts: 24502
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by weatheriscool »

Ukraine Shoots Down Six Hypersonic Missiles Fired by Russia--Kyiv
Source: Newsweek
Ukraine's air defenses shot down six Russian hypersonic missiles as Moscow launched a fresh wave of strikes overnight, according to Kyiv.

Russia launched 18 missile strikes across Ukraine at about 3.30 a.m. local time on Tuesday, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces said in a post to social media.

Six Kh-47M2 Kinzhal hypersonic missiles were launched from Russian MiG-31K jets, Ukraine's military said, as well as nine Kalibr missiles from vessels in the Black Sea. Several other missiles, including the land-based, short-range Iskander-M, were also fired at Ukrainian targets, Ukrainian authorities said in an update.

"All 18 missiles were destroyed by the forces and means of air defense of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," Ukraine's military said.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-shoots ... es-1800561
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

...according to Kyiv.
Source: Kyiv.
User avatar
Powers
Posts: 1183
Joined: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:32 pm
Location: a.k.a Lurking, Member, Lorem Ipsum, ..., --- and ººº.

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by Powers »

ibm9000 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:47 pm
...according to Kyiv.
Source: Kyiv.
Lol :lol:
User avatar
funkervogt
Posts: 1365
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 3:03 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by funkervogt »

U.S. officials now acknowledge that last night's Russian attack on Kiev damaged the Patriot missile system that was defending the city, though they won't say how bad it is.

Sounds like the attack was designed to target the Patriot system. It's one of the most expensive and advanced weapons the West has given Ukraine.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/16/politics ... index.html
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Readers should be cautios about taking at face value allegations that have the potential to spread disinformation.
UK MOD.
Ukraine denied on Wednesday that a Russian hypersonic missile had destroyed a US-made Patriot missile defence system during an airstrike on Kyiv. Russia’s defence ministry made the assertion on Tuesday after an overnight air attack on the Ukrainian capital. Two US officials later said a Patriot system had probably suffered damage but that it did not appear to have been destroyed. “I want to say: do not worry about the fate of the Patriot,” Ukrainian air force spokesperson Yuriy Ihnat told Ukrainian television. He ruled out the possibility of a Russian “Kinzhal” missile knocking out a Patriot system.
The Guardian.
First, as stated last evening, it’s entirely possible that one of the Patriot systems was damaged in the aerial onslaught due to an enemy weapon. It’s also worth remembering that just like any missile system, Patriot interceptors fail, and sometimes they do so right after launch in spectacular fashion. These failures can even damage parts of the battery itself, although that is rare. And sometimes such a failure can look like the battery was hit by the enemy. So claims of a Patriot site being struck due to a flash seen in a video or some other single piece of vague evidence is not worth a hard conclusion. On a very active and dynamic battlefield, things explode and sometimes it’s not caused by enemy munitions and sometimes it is.
The Drive.

The US officials are wrong, because Ukraine made an official statement and their Patriot are magic and they cannot be destroyed.


("a flash seen in a video or some other single piece of vague evidence", unless it is coming from Ukraine, then it is the absolute truth).
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Many, many a year ago...

I read, when Israel was using Patriot, that, instead of using them, they should just pay the $1.000.000 (then) of each missile to compensate the victims...
Now, they are like $5 millions, $160 millions last night. Whoever is making the missiles, won.
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Another explosion reported in Luhansk one day after missile strikes, Russian-backed officials say.
An explosion was heard Saturday morning in the suburbs of the eastern city of Luhansk, which is occupied by Russian forces and is a significant hub for Moscow's invasion, one day after the city was struck by two missiles.
CNN.

Ukraine attacking a city?
User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »

At Iceland Summit, European Leaders Announce System to Track Ukraine Damage
by Molly Quell
May 17, 2023

Introduction:
REYKJAVIK, Iceland (Courthouse News) — Leaders from across Europe traveled to Iceland this week for the first Council of Europe summit in nearly two decades, where they announced a new system to record the damage inflicted on Ukraine by Russia.

The post-World War II human rights organization decided to hold a meeting following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year, looking to strengthen ties across it’s 46 members and look for concrete ways to support accountability for victims.

“We are not gathered here in peace, but under the cloud of war,” Katrín Jakobsdóttir, the Icelandic prime minister, said in her opening speech. Her country currently holds the presidency of the Council of Europe, a rotating position.

Ahead of the summit, the organization announced a number of measures to help war-ravaged Ukraine. The group is backing an international tribunal for the war and, more tangibly, plans to establish a register of damages, where Ukrainians can log the destruction they have experienced in the hope they may get eventually see some financial reimbursement.

The aim of the register is to allow victims to submit their claims for damages, not only for destroyed property but also for injuries or even the death of family members. The Council of Europe intends for that information to be used later to compensate the millions of Ukrainians who have suffered under the conflict.

Read more here: https://www.courthousenews.com/at-icel ... -damage/
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »

G7 Concludes with Pledge of Support to Ukraine
May 21, 2023

Introduction:
(The National) The G7 bloc of rich democracies pledged on Sunday its continued support for Ukraine, as the three-day summit concluded in the Japanese city of Hiroshima.

The group sounded a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who claimed to have taken the strategic city of Bakhmut.

Russia "will not break" the resolve of Ukraine's allies, US President Joe Biden said, after speaking with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the summit.

"Together with the entire G7 we have Ukraine's back and I promise we're not going anywhere," Mr Biden said.

The US President said he had assured Mr Zelenskyy that Washington and other backers of Kyiv "will not waver, Putin will not break our resolve as he thought he could".

The article also discusses the situation in Bakhmut.

Read more here: https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/ ... bakhmut/

caltrek's comment: Brave talk, we will see if the G7 can continue their current level of support. How well pro-Ukraine parties do in elections will be critical.
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »

Zelenskyy Insists 'Bakhmut Holds' After Reports Russia Has Taken Control
by Thomas Harding
May 21, 2023

Introduction:
(The National) The besieged city of Bakhmut remains in Ukraine’s possession the country’s President has insisted, despite claims that it has been taken by Russia.

After appearing to concede the battle-ravaged city had fallen early on Sunday, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy later told a press conference at the G7 in Japan that Bakhmut “is not occupied by Russia”.

“There are no two or three interpretations of those words,” he said, adding that he would not share precise details.

The denials come after Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner mercenary group, claimed on Saturday that his troops had seized the last remaining Ukraine positions on the western suburbs and posted a picture of himself waving a Russian flag amid its ruins.

The mercenary leader said his troops had taken the last multi-story apartment building in south-western Bakhmut.

Read more here: https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/ ... -control/

caltrek’s comment: In my mind, this opens up the intriguing possibility of a separate settlement with the Wagner mercenary group. Prigozhin has already indicated a deeply felt hostility toward the Kremlin. Perhaps, in exchange for some territorial concession…(?)
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
weatheriscool
Posts: 24502
Joined: Sun May 16, 2021 6:16 pm
Contact:

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by weatheriscool »

caltrek wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 3:57 pm G7 Concludes with Pledge of Support to Ukraine
May 21, 2023

Introduction:
(The National) The G7 bloc of rich democracies pledged on Sunday its continued support for Ukraine, as the three-day summit concluded in the Japanese city of Hiroshima.

The group sounded a warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who claimed to have taken the strategic city of Bakhmut.

Russia "will not break" the resolve of Ukraine's allies, US President Joe Biden said, after speaking with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the summit.

"Together with the entire G7 we have Ukraine's back and I promise we're not going anywhere," Mr Biden said.

The US President said he had assured Mr Zelenskyy that Washington and other backers of Kyiv "will not waver, Putin will not break our resolve as he thought he could".

The article also discusses the situation in Bakhmut.

Read more here: https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/ ... bakhmut/

caltrek's comment: Brave talk, we will see if the G7 can continue their current level of support. How well pro-Ukraine parties do in elections will be critical.
Sadly, I agree. This is probably one of the areas Biden might have to move on in order to get a debt ceiling bill passed through congress without fully giving in to the idiots on attacking the poor and disabled. I am hoping europe can support Ukraine and win this war.
User avatar
caltrek
Posts: 9280
Joined: Mon May 17, 2021 1:17 pm

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by caltrek »



I can't vouch for Trofimov as to whether he is a reliable source, but his comment seems spot on.
Don't mourn, organize.

-Joe Hill
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

British arms exports doubled during 2022 to a record £8.5bn according to the only publicly available official figures, reflecting escalating geopolitical uncertainties and fallout from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
The largest destination for UK-made weaponry was Qatar, which bought £2.7bn-worth, and 54% went to countries designated as “not free” by the human rights group Freedom House. These include Saudi Arabia and Turkey, as well as Qatar.
The Guardian.

It feels good to help Ukraine. (and freedom and democracy).
User avatar
ibm9000
Posts: 458
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:24 am

Re: Ukraine War Watch Thread

Post by ibm9000 »

Ukraine itself received £401m-worth of exports, although most of the £2.3bn of weapons the UK supplied to Kyiv in 2022 were from stocks held by the British military, and so did not require an export licence.
The Guardian.
Post Reply