Ukraine War Watch Thread

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Spade.

I didn't start by calling anybody spade, I haven't called myself spade and I didn't start any deep, introspective exploration of my my feelings about calling somebody spade.

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Murder of Yevgeny Nuzhin

Yevgeny Anatolievich Nuzhin (1967 – November 2022) was a convicted Russian murderer who enlisted in Wagner Group during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. After defecting to the Ukrainian side he was extrajudicially murdered by the Wagner Group for alleged treason in Russia.

Life
Nuzhin was born in 1967.[1] As a young man, Nuzhin had served in the Ministry of Interior of the Russian Army. In 1999, he murdered a person and wounded another for which he was sent to prison for 24 years. In jail he married a woman named Olga Viktorovna[2] with whom he had two sons.[3][4] He was sentenced to an additional four years in prison for an attempted escape.[3] He spent the first four years of his sentence in special rigor camps in northern Ural. Later, he was sent to IK3 prison in Razan. After three years he was sent to Vladimir after which he returned to Razan.[2] While in prison, he maintained social media accounts. He expressed support for the annexation of Crimea and the invasion of Ukraine.[3]

In July 2022,[2] he joined Wagner Group after Yevgeny Prigozhin visited his prison in Razan region. After training for seven days, on 25 August he was sent to the Luhansk region and on 2 September he arrived on the frontline.[2] On 4 September, he decided to surrender.[1][5] Following his surrender, he gave an interview to Ukrainian journalist Yuri Butusov, stating that he had only joined the Wagner Group to get out of prison and quickly surrender to Ukraine. He argued that he was opposed to the Russian invasion, and expressed his hope to stay in Ukraine[6] and the wish to fight for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.[6][1][5]

On 11 November 2022, while walking in the streets of Kyiv, he was allegedly kidnapped, although it is possible Wagner forced him to tell this to warn others.[5][3] According to Human rights group Gulagu.net, he was either recaptured or passed back to the Russian Army which handed him over to Wagner Security Service. According to the Telegram channel "Cheka-OGPU", Nuzhin was returned on 11 November in a 45 to 45 prisoner exchange.[3] On 12 November, a Wagner Group–affiliated Telegram channel released a video titled The hammer of revenge[5] showing his "execution for treachery" using a sledgehammer. Yevgeny Prigozhin, chief of Wagner Group claimed responsibility for his killing saying that it was "dog's death for the dog."[5][7]

Gulag.net called on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to investigate how Nuzhin ended up in Wagner Group captivity despite having surrendered to Ukraine.[6] Nuzhin's relatives in Russia blamed Ukraine for allowing him to be killed, though his sons also stated that the Russian Federal Security Service was "looking for them" to ensure their silence on the matter.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Yevgeny_Nuzhin

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Spade.

I didn't start by calling anybody spade, I haven't called myself spade and I didn't start any deep, introspective exploration of my my feelings about calling somebody spade.

Well, at least this is closer to the truth than an oversimplified statement saying that I called you unrealistic.

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Scenes of Joy Spread in Ukraine After Russia’s Withdrawal From Kherson
by Inae Oh
November 12, 2022

Introduction:

(Mother Jones) For nearly nine months, the people of Kherson, Ukraine, had been living under Russian occupation, with countless families forced to live without basic means including food, running water, and electricity. But after Russian troops suddenly announced a retreat from the city on Friday, scenes of joy have brought a reprieve from the brutality of the war.

Videos and images quickly began flooding social media, showing Ukrainians taking to the streets to celebrate a rare moment of peace in southern Ukraine, where the fighting between Ukrainian and Russian forces has been especially intense. The liberation of Kherson comes as a critical blow to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who just last month had declared Kherson among four Ukrainian regions to have been annexed into Russia “forever.”
One especially poignant video clip shared online by Myroslava Petsa, a Ukrainian journalist working for BBC News, showed a grandmother weeping with joy at the sight of her grandson, a Ukrainian solder:

(See article linked below for Twitter feeds)

Yet, the knowledge that the retreat is a humiliating setback for Putin added to fears that Russia will launch further onslaught. Speaking to reporters, Ukrainians expressed fears of Russian military retaliation: “Everybody expects something. Everybody is afraid,” a hairdresser told the New York Times, amid the celebration. Those concerns were echoed by Ukrainian President Zelensky, who urged Ukrainians to exercise extreme caution in the days ahead.

Read more here: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2 ... s-of-joy/

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Meanwhile in Luhansk.

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Also:

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Also:

Publicity stunt?

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SBU(Kiev) kills member of Ukrainian negotiations team.

One traitor (Saldo) confirmed the death of another traitor.
Kirill Stremousov is DEAD.
Goodbye, traitor.

Murder of Yevgeny Nuzhin.

Yes, some humans are more equal than others.


Kiev was never surrounded nor under siege. Kherson didn't fall nor was taken. Full swing Fairy Tales or they (western Media) have no idea what they are talking about?, both?

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SBU(Kiev) kills member of Ukrainian negotiations team.

One traitor (Saldo) confirmed the death of another traitor.
Kirill Stremousov is DEAD.
Goodbye, traitor.

Murder of Yevgeny Nuzhin.

Yes, some humans are more equal than others.


Kiev was never surrounded nor under siege. Kherson didn't fall nor was taken. Full swing Fairy Tales or they (western Media) have no idea what they are talking about?, both?

Kiev was attacked. Maybe it was meant as a diversionary tactic, but it was attacked. If evidence over the internet can be believed, Russian forces suffered heavily in what seemed to be an aborted attack attempt. They were the ones under siege as they had attempted to simply attack the way you or I would drive down a highway into town. Both ends of the highway were cutoff until they managed an escape. At least until those that survived managed an escape.

Now, if you want to indulge in fairy tales by giving an alternative description of what happened, I am all ears.

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Attacked? Yes; I did not use that word.
Under artillery fire? Yes.
Under siege? No.

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Looool:

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...and for China as well.

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Gee I wonder where they are? Almost as if they don't exist?

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Russian administrators leave second city of Ukraine's Kherson region
Source: Reuters

Nov 15 (Reuters) - Civil servants working for the Russian-installed administration in Nova Kakhovka, the second-largest city in Ukraine's southern Kherson region, have left along with thousands of residents due to fighting, officials said on Tuesday.

The city lies on the east bank of the Dnipro river, next to the huge Kakhovka dam, which both Ukraine and Russia have accused each other of shelling. It also adjoins the town of Tavriisk at the mouth of the North Crimean Canal, a crucial source of fresh water to the arid Crimean peninsula, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

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Russia has already asked civilians to leave areas of Kherson province within 15 km (nine miles) of the Dnipro's eastern bank, and says its forces have taken up defensive positions on that side of the river.

Images published on social media on Tuesday appeared to show Russian troops had left the town of Oleshky, directly across the Dnipro from the city of Kherson, suggesting that one of the war's biggest retreats may not have ended at the water's edge.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-11-15/

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US official: Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2
Source: AP

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people.

Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information, but said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a “crisis situation.”

Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 1b52ff9d52

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GENEVA, Nov 15 (Reuters) - The U.N. human rights office (OHCHR) said on Tuesday that both Russia and Ukraine have tortured prisoners of war...
Bogner reported "credible allegations" of summary executions of Russian prisoners, noting that no progress has yet been seen in Ukrainian authorities' investigations into these cases.

No, no, no... in the UN they have no idea what they are talking about, repeat after me: Russia bad, Ukraine good.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called on "G19" world leaders to end the Russian invasion...

But he is not negotiating with Russia. His war is agaisnt the "G19"?

For the time being... (and it has been for a while) can we say that there is no offensive?, just some fighting.

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But what impressed me then, and has impressed me ever since, is that atrocities are believed in or disbelieved in solely on grounds
of political predilection. Everyone believes in the atrocities of the enemy and disbelieves in those of his own side, without ever bothering to
examine the evidence. Recently I drew up a table of atrocities during the period between 1918 and the present; there was never a year when atrocities
were not occurring somewhere or other, and there was hardly a single case when the Left and the Right believed in the same stories simultaneously.
And stranger yet, at any moment the situation can suddenly reverse itself and yesterday’s proved-to-the-hilt atrocity story can become a ridiculous
lie, merely because the political landscape has changed.

G. Orwell.

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