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SpaceX reveals simpler lander to speed up Moon return
By David Szondy
November 07, 2025
With its metaphorical feet held over the allegorical fire by NASA, SpaceX has released a new, simplified plan to build a lander to put US astronauts back on the Moon now that the competition for the spacecraft has been reopened due to delays.

NASA's Artemis program to establish a permanent US human presence on the Moon is ambitious beyond any doubt. However, like previous American efforts, it's been fraught with cost overruns, delays and technical problems. One of the most aggravating of these bottlenecks has been building the lunar lander because if you don't have a way to actually put astronauts on the actual Moon, you're pretty much wasting your time.
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SpaceX to Tell NASA the Moon Will Have to Wait

A leaked internal document suggests SpaceX could miss NASA’s Artemis 3 deadline by over a year.

November 17, 2025

SpaceX has fallen behind in developing a crewed lunar lander for NASA’s Artemis 3 mission, prompting the agency to reopen the contract to other providers. The added pressure has pushed SpaceX to revise its strategy, but the new approach still appears insufficient to meet NASA’s target date, leaked proprietary information suggests.

An internal SpaceX document obtained by Politico lays out a new timeline for the Starship Human Landing System (HLS)—one that would put the Artemis 3 astronauts on the Moon by September 2028 at the earliest. That’s more than a year past NASA’s mid-2027 target.

Even hitting this revised target will be a tall order given Starship’s enormous size, complex design, and the major milestones it has yet to achieve. An anonymous congressional aide told Politico that SpaceX’s 2028 objectives are still “very aggressive” given the current state of the rocket’s development.

As SpaceX’s rivals step forward with their own proposals for the Artemis 3 HLS contract, the company’s revised timeline does not bode well for its bid. Gizmodo reached out to SpaceX and NASA but did not receive a response by the time of publication.

NASA tapped SpaceX to provide the first crewed lander for the Artemis program in 2021. To fill that need, the company designed Starship HLS—a modified version of Starship’s upper stage designed to deliver astronauts to and from the lunar surface. Its development is intrinsically linked to that of the core Starship system, which hit several snags this year.

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here comes another timeline update lol
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And yet it keeps getting endlessly delayed...sure, everything is fine
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NASA delays the first Artemis moonshot with astronauts because of extreme cold at the launch site

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Elon is right to do this...We need to build a massive colony on the moon and develop/hone our ability to live in space and construct ships. Once we do this then mars will be far easier...Give it about 20-30 years.




I also think he should also focus on building a.i datacenters near this city.
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I think that now is a more appropriate time than a few decades ago, as we actually have a good reason (putting telescopes on the dark side) to go back.
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This would be a massive humiliation for the US...

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