2023-2024 Presidential, senate, house, state and city election thread

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Kristi Noem’s VP chances appear as dead as the dog she killed. There are other reasons too.

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He's such a Goddamn f*cking moron.

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Trump says he’d disband the pandemic preparedness office—again

By Erik English | May 3, 2024

In a recent interview with TIME magazine, Donald Trump said that if reelected, he would disband the Office of Pandemic Preparedness and Response Policy (OPPR), a permanent office of the executive branch established by Congress in 2022. The Biden campaign responded quickly to point out that Trump’s failed pandemic response was why the OPPR was created to begin with.

In his interview with TIME, Trump described the office as “just a way of giving out pork.” He explained, “And, yeah, I probably would [disband it], because I think we’ve learned a lot and we can mobilize, you know, we can mobilize. A lot of the things that you do and a lot of the equipment that you buy is obsolete when you get hit with something. And as far as medicines, you know, these medicines are very different depending on what strains, depending on what type of flu or virus it may be. You know, things change so much. So, yeah, I think I would.”

The pledge to act quickly in response to a public health emergency stands in sharp contrast to the actions of the Trump administration while in office. Before declaring a pandemic on March 17, 2020, Donald Trump repeatedly undermined the seriousness of the disease, saying on January 22nd that “It’s just one person coming from China.” On February 10th, he implied that it would go away with the heat in April. “It’s going to disappear,” he said on February 27th. On March 10th, just days before declaring a pandemic, Trump urged everyone to “Just stay calm. It will go away.”

Recognizing the need for a speedier response to public health emergencies, OPPR was created to bolster the “whole-of-government” approach to addressing health emergencies like the COVID-19 pandemic. The current head of OPPR, retired Maj. Gen. Paul Friedrichs, recently appeared before the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic to confirm this goal to the chairman, Brad Wenstrup. Friedrichs admitted that the newly created office had not yet been tested and that its “success will be judged by what happens in the next pandemic.”

The irony of public health interventions is that, if successful, they often look like overreactions. The absence of a public health emergency can’t always be seen as a successful intervention, but the occurrence of an emergency can be seen as a failure.

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I sure hope this poll (see below) has underestimated Biden's support and that other polls showing a slight Biden lead are more accurate.
(Rasmussen Reports)

General Election: Trump 48, Biden 36, Kennedy 8, West 1, Stein 1
Trump +12

Sample size: 1,205 Likely Voters

Poll taken April 29, 2024 to May 1, 2024
Source: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
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To the question of how and why is Trump's support so strong compared to Biden's, one must look toward the information silos to which the American public sequesters itself. For example, look at the relative ratings of the cable news networks:

(TV Newser)

Fox News in primetime had 2.135 million total viewers/246,000 Adults 25-54. In total day, it had 1.306 million/158,000 viewers in both categories, respectively....

MSNBC was the No. 2 cable news network in primetime and total viewers for the month of March, with 1.307 million and 830,000 viewers, respectively...

CNN landed in third place in total viewers in primetime and total day with 601,000 and 462,000 viewers, respectively....

Source:https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-ar ... rch-2024/

As most of our readers understand, Fox News is far more conservative than MSNBC or CNN.

CNN actually has a lot of conservative pundits showing up on its various panels, so it is not entirely liberal/progressive. MSNBC is very pro-Democratic, but falls far behind Fox News in the ratings.

Talk show radio is also often dominated by conservative hosts.

Why these conservative news outlets are so much more popular is hard to understand, much less explain in a brief post.
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I&I/TIPP

General Election: Trump vs. Biden

Trump 40, Biden 42
Biden +2

General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein

Trump 38, Biden 39, Kennedy 12, West 1, Stein 1
Biden +1
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(Tipp Insights) President Joe Biden has a tenuous lead over lawfare-challenged former President Donald Trump, but continues to show weakness among key voting groups that he needs to win a second term in office, the latest numbers from the May I&I/TIPP Poll show.

The national online I&I/TIPP Poll, taken from May 1-3, included 1,264 responses to a number of questions about the upcoming 2024 presidential election. The poll's margin of error is +/-2.8 percentage points.
Source of summary: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

Source of discussion: https://tippinsights.com/biden-and-trum ... ipp-poll/
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USA Today/Suffolk*

General Election: Trump 37, Biden 37, Kennedy 8, West 2, Stein 1
Tie

Sample size: 1,000
Source of summary: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

Relevant to my recent post regarding information silos:
What TV news or commentary source do you trust the most (READ)? {RANDOMIZE .1-.10}
((Total) N=1,000) n %
CNN ----------------------------------------------------------------- 89 8.90
MSNBC ------------------------------------------------------------- 76 7.60
FOX NEWS-------------------------------------------------------169 16.90
ABC------------------------------------------------------------------ 53 5.30
NBC ----------------------------------------------------------------- 56 5.60
CBS------------------------------------------------------------------ 49 4.90
C-SPAN ------------------------------------------------------------ 20 2.00
NEWSMAX -------------------------------------------------------- 66 6.60
PBS/NPR----------------------------------------------------------117 11.70
ONE AMERICA NEWS NETWORK ------------------------- 16 1.60
None of Them----------------------------------------------------240 24.00
Undecided --------------------------------------------------------- 49 4.90
Source: https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk ... D0411F673
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Michigan Republican Unseated After Losing to Democrat by 20 Points

Published May 08, 2024 at 4:36 AM EDT

A Republican county commissioner has been unseated in Michigan after losing to her Democratic challenger by 20 percentage points.

Chris Kleinjans won an Ottawa County election on Tuesday with 60 percent of the vote share, while the Republican incumbent Lucy Ebel lost, having received 40 percent.

Michigan is a battleground state that will be key to November's presidential election. Donald Trump won the county with 61 percent of the vote in 2020.

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Ebel had faced a recall petition that was signed by some 3,000 people after she voted in favor of a motion to reverse Adeline Hambley's selection as the top health official in the county on February 28, 2023. There were concerns about the legality of the motion.

What happens in Michigan may indicate the result of the 2024 election as it is a key swing state. In 2016, Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate for the election, took Michigan, but incumbent President Joe Biden flipped it back in 2020, suggesting that the result in 2024 will be tight in this state.

https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-repub ... ns-1898212
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