- The future supercontinent, Pangaea Ultima, will have storms much more powerful than those of today.
- Much of the surface of the Earth will get above 50°C, and will be 50°C as a monthly average. This will be due to increased solar energy as the Sun ages and increased carbon dioxide content (volcanism increasing due to the continents colliding into a supercontinent).
- This high temperature will fuel enormous storms called hypercanes, much larger than modern hurricanes, and reaching into the stratosphere.
- Creatures which can survive being pummeled by the oceans will become dominant. This would include organisms like crabs: with adaptations such as hard shells, ability to survive out of water, and ability to lock their gills up to become a self-contained environment.
From Wikipedia:
Hypercanes would have wind speeds of over 800 kilometres per hour (500 mph), potentially gusting to 970 km/h (600 mph), and would also have a central pressure of less than 700 hectopascals (20.67 inHg), giving them an enormous lifespan of at least several weeks. This extreme low pressure could also support massive storm systems roughly the size of North America.
Very fascinating. However, by that far in the future, we will have the technology to control the weather to a large extent. Satellites positioned between the Earth and Sun could shade the planet, keeping overall sunlight intensity levels the same as they are now.
And by using a technique called "star lifting," we could slowly siphon off the Sun's outer layers of hydrogen, which might shrink it enough to prevent it from turning into a red giant that is projected to expand and fry Earth in 5 billion years. https://www.gregschool.org/gregschoolle ... e-galaxies
- The future supercontinent, Pangaea Ultima, will have storms much more powerful than those of today.
- Much of the surface of the Earth will get above 50°C, and will be 50°C as a monthly average. This will be due to increased solar energy as the Sun ages and increased carbon dioxide content (volcanism increasing due to the continents colliding into a supercontinent).
- This high temperature will fuel enormous storms called hypercanes, much larger than modern hurricanes, and reaching into the stratosphere.
- Creatures which can survive being pummeled by the oceans will become dominant. This would include organisms like crabs: with adaptations such as hard shells, ability to survive out of water, and ability to lock their gills up to become a self-contained environment.
From Wikipedia:
Hypercanes would have wind speeds of over 800 kilometres per hour (500 mph), potentially gusting to 970 km/h (600 mph), and would also have a central pressure of less than 700 hectopascals (20.67 inHg), giving them an enormous lifespan of at least several weeks. This extreme low pressure could also support massive storm systems roughly the size of North America.
Very fascinating. However, by that far in the future, we will have the technology to control the weather to a large extent. Satellites positioned between the Earth and Sun could shade the planet, keeping overall sunlight intensity levels the same as they are now.
And by using a technique called "star lifting," we could slowly siphon off the Sun's outer layers of hydrogen, which might shrink it enough to prevent it from turning into a red giant that is projected to expand and fry Earth in 5 billion years. https://www.gregschool.org/gregschoolle ... e-galaxies
You know, assuming we either haven't gone extinct or haven't evolved into a transhumanist form in which such storms pose no threat or inconvenience to us. Like if we're all living as AI with servers safely underground or something.
firestar464 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:48 pm
We might still give a damn about ecosystems though
Assuming that we're not the cause of climate disasters that far flung into the future, we might decide that it's best for us not to interfere with natural ecosystems. Let evolution and nature takes it's course while we don't intervene.
firestar464 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:48 pm
We might still give a damn about ecosystems though
Assuming that we're not the cause of climate disasters that far flung into the future, we might decide that it's best for us not to interfere with natural ecosystems. Let evolution and nature takes it's course while we don't intervene.
It's outside our (right now) control, e.g: Sun engulfing Earth.
firestar464 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:48 pm
We might still give a damn about ecosystems though
Assuming that we're not the cause of climate disasters that far flung into the future, we might decide that it's best for us not to interfere with natural ecosystems. Let evolution and nature takes it's course while we don't intervene.
It's outside our (right now) control, e.g: Sun engulfing Earth.
Yes, but I'm talking about the distant future. Assuming we don't go extinct or back to the stone age because of whatever disaster, we very well could reach a stage where such things are in our control - even moving the earth to a new sun, or creating a new sun for the earth. But that doesn't mean we will or should. And there's degrees of separation between controlling climate or seismic plates to say life as it is, and saving all life when the sun does go. Life will continue to evolve through natural climate change as it always has (although our current climate is not natural and we need to fix the mess we've made) but not through the literal end of the earth.
My point is, future society might take a hands off approach with nature, which honestly would probably be for the best.
You know, assuming we either haven't gone extinct or haven't evolved into a transhumanist form in which such storms pose no threat or inconvenience to us. Like if we're all living as AI with servers safely underground or something.
How would a giant hurricane with wind speeds of 500 mph / 800 kph not pose a threat or inconvenience to us, even if we have evolved into more advanced life forms?
If we're living underground as AIs, getting rid of our waste heat would be a major problem. Keeping the planet's surface from getting too hot would serve our interests since it would let us dissipate our waste heat more efficiently.
You know, assuming we either haven't gone extinct or haven't evolved into a transhumanist form in which such storms pose no threat or inconvenience to us. Like if we're all living as AI with servers safely underground or something.
How would a giant hurricane with wind speeds of 500 mph / 800 kph not pose a threat or inconvenience to us, even if we have evolved into more advanced life forms?
If we're living underground as AIs, getting rid of our waste heat would be a major problem. Keeping the planet's surface from getting too hot would serve our interests since it would let us dissipate our waste heat more efficiently.
You really believe our technology will still be so inefficient millions of years from now that waste heat will be a problem? That we won't be using whatever bit of heat we produce to power something else that the actual amount of energy wasted is negligible? We're talking so far in the future that I doubt we'll have such concerns.
- The future supercontinent, Pangaea Ultima, will have storms much more powerful than those of today.
- Much of the surface of the Earth will get above 50°C, and will be 50°C as a monthly average. This will be due to increased solar energy as the Sun ages and increased carbon dioxide content (volcanism increasing due to the continents colliding into a supercontinent).
- This high temperature will fuel enormous storms called hypercanes, much larger than modern hurricanes, and reaching into the stratosphere.
- Creatures which can survive being pummeled by the oceans will become dominant. This would include organisms like crabs: with adaptations such as hard shells, ability to survive out of water, and ability to lock their gills up to become a self-contained environment.
From Wikipedia:
Hypercanes would have wind speeds of over 800 kilometres per hour (500 mph), potentially gusting to 970 km/h (600 mph), and would also have a central pressure of less than 700 hectopascals (20.67 inHg), giving them an enormous lifespan of at least several weeks. This extreme low pressure could also support massive storm systems roughly the size of North America.
Very fascinating. However, by that far in the future, we will have the technology to control the weather to a large extent. Satellites positioned between the Earth and Sun could shade the planet, keeping overall sunlight intensity levels the same as they are now.
And by using a technique called "star lifting," we could slowly siphon off the Sun's outer layers of hydrogen, which might shrink it enough to prevent it from turning into a red giant that is projected to expand and fry Earth in 5 billion years. https://www.gregschool.org/gregschoolle ... e-galaxies
Either way, we could add the prediction with the text "assuming no human intervention"
